![]() if a mechanic does not hold up to causality in the game's model, it can't be historical. hoi 4 already penalizes nav operating at long ranges from land basesĪs for "wrong" reasons, it's worse than quoted. ![]() to me, this is evidence that they did not want to find out.that the trades in production and lives would not favor the warships. We don't have a lot of ww2 data points of large fleets intentionally sailing near hundreds-to-thousands of land-based naval bombers where we get to see how well their naval aa performed compared to when the planes were launched from carriers. i instead assert that there's a good reason real fleets didn't do this.Ĭlick to expand.what i was saying in prior post questions the "historically accurate" part. i don't buy that naval aa would retain its advantage in this scenario. The game allows extreme idiocy by fleets, where fleets get closer to opposing air bases than actual historical naval carriers were from each other. over the pacific, it can impact mission efficiency, sometimes greatly, to launch nav from land. we already have partial modeling anyway carrier nav ignores range in naval combats, while land-based nav suffers from range penalties. I don't think it's healthy to selectively implicate history if the game isn't going to model the *reasons* carrier based nav were more successful, then it shouldn't assume that reason exists. these are *slightly* different scenarios, lol also, were they really using the same plane setup in this comparison? it's not clear to me that's the case, when trying to look it up.Ĭomparing nav usage in pacific at those extreme ranges from land doesn't really work if you try to project that to "what would happen if someone put their entire navy in the english channel while the other side was blotting out the skies". ![]() but that's because in the real war, navies didn't make a habit of sailing near enemy air bases with thousands of nav. I presume a lot of this can be explained by less time to react to incoming carrier nav than from inland. Click to expand.what was the reason for this, though?
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